Laventille, Then & Now #3 | Desperadoes & San Juan All Stars Steel Band Clash 1959!

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Part 3: Laventille, Then & Now | Steel Band Clash 1959 | Desperadoes & San Juan All Stars | By San Diego Lee, written by Santiwah!

This story is about the infamous Steelband clash that took place between Desperadoes and San Juan All-Stars. San Juan All-Stars had the reputation of being the 'bad-john' band of all steel bands. However, as you read my story you would see that every dog has his day and every 'bad-john' eventually gets his 'cut-arse' aka a good beating... as they say in Trinidad "what eh meet yuh eh pass yuh". This story was put together from stories I was told as a child. I was very young but this story was told in every nook and cranny on the hill. I hope you enjoy this piece about Desperadoes of Laventille.

It was one of those years (1959) when Desperadoes played a pretty mass called “Noah’s Ark”. Now just about everyone knows the story of Noah and his Ark. Well this was the year that Desperadoes decided to give that story some life on the streets of Port-of-Spain. Just let your imagination take flight and think of the bible in living color but in this scenario as a carnival presentation.  Carnival presentations were very fancy long ago and in this story, Desperadoes decided to bring just about every character to life. Now if you think of the Ark and every animal that was in it you can imagine the creative juices coming into play...a lot of hard work went into that presentation with the Ark as the centerpiece and the characters around the Ark.

Let your mind drift for a moment and visualize about 1500 to 2000 masqueraders with all those characters, the animals, shepherds with their shepherd stick, beggars with their bag of belonging hanging on the end of a club stick, characters with long staff sticks, and so on.  One of the main presentations was to release white birds representing the doves from the great flood when the band reached on stage at the Queens Park Savannah. This was the plan and the stage was set with what was considered to be one of the biggest bands to his the stage at the Savannah.

Now Desperadoes route usually is to come down the hill straight down Prince street and head first to Marine Square now called “Independence Square” which was the first judging point. After leaving this area they played and masqueraded until they got back at the foot of the Laventille road and Piccadilly street. The time they took to get to this point was around mid-day. This meant it was time for a break to have lunch. After lunch, it was mas again and the chipping to the music took the band across Piccadilly street and then a right turn on Charlotte street that was the final stretch that leads straight to the Savannah. This was the time to play yourself and enjoy your mas and nothing could stop that.

However, on the day, as faith will have it that route taken by Desperadoes became historic for what took place on that faithful afternoon. On that day San Juan All Stars (known as the 'bad-john' band) came to "town" (Port-of-Spain). Their presentation that yeas was a war mass (Battle Cry)and by all accounts, they were looking for trouble. They were en-route to the Savannah taking the same route as Despers. Now just behind Desperadoes was Tokyo playing a sailor mass (sailor mas was very popular during this period and flour bags were in great demand). San Juan All Stars broke the formation of Tokyo and went straight through their band (that is Tokyo). Tokyo came out to play mas and did not want to fight, even though San Juan All Stars destroyed their mas presentation. They let them through, knowing full well who was in front - that band from Laventille was no pushover and with the attitude of San Juan All-Stars on that memorable day trouble was about to meet trouble; it resulted in the most memorable steel band clash in the history of Trinidad.

Just let your imagination take control and see the bands in play. San Juan All-Stars, after crashing through Tokyo, was now between Desperadoes and Tokyo and they tried to break the formation of Desperadoes. That was a big mistake... all hell broke loose! San Juan All Stars Was demolished, their own weapons they had hiding in their tanks were turned on them. The women and children of Desperadoes were placed in the Ark for protection when the fighting was in progress(it really turned out to be a refuge just like Noah's Ark of the Bible). Think of all those shepherd’s sticks, staff sticks, beggars clubs, and who knows what else was used to beat back San Juan All-Stars.  As San Juan All-Stars started to retreat they were now blocked by Tokyo with no place to run.  From accounts from eyewitnesses, bloodied members from All-Stars were thrown over the General Hospital’s fence and some accounts stated that some badly busted up San Juan All-Stars members were pushed through the gates of the hospital for medical care.

On that infamous day, not even the vendors escaped the clash.  The vendors who are on the sidewalk selling all kinds of bottled drinks either lost their supplies to people looking for something to throw or they used them as they too got involved in the fracas.  All those bottled drinks and empty bottles were used as projectiles. After all, was said and done and those who were not wounded on Desperadoes' side of the clash reformed and went on to the Savannah. I guess they did not forget to deliver the great spectacle of the release of the 'white doves' from the ark as planned.  That was the one year that Desperadoes expected to win band of the year for their presentation of such a fantastic theme.

Please be advised that I don't possess any knowledge regarding when or how that memorable fracas stopped; after all, I was just a little child. As I mentioned before this account was told as we limed on the street corners of  Laventille. This collective story came from relatives, neighbors, and friends, and folks who were there and either participated in the fighting or were simply there as onlookers.

I had a brief discussion with one of my dear friends in the WACK radio shoutbox about this clash and was surprised to learn (from our conversation) that her uncle was involved in the clash but as a  member of the San Juan All-Stars!  It should be very interesting to hear someone speak about the San Juan experience. I am sure we will hear about the 'buss heads' that were inflicted by the San Juan side. This is as much as I can recall and it was told from a Laventille perspective (Despers experience). Of course, the story would have a different slant when told from the San Juan All Stars perspective.

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‏قال Unknown
Your article is very well done. I was a kid at the time and witnessed the colourful sweetdrink bottles flying in the air on Charlotte Street, and hearing them pop like gunfire when they landed. One more thing, with Despers knowing that trouble was lurking, they used cutlasses as decoration for Noah's Arc, with the painted cutlass handles lining both sides of the Bow. They were prepared. I recall my family taking shelter in an alleyway nearer the Savannah, with a mounted policeman trying to guide people out of the area.
‏قال غير معرف…
My late father also told me about this riot. He was adamant that Despers were themselves expecting a fight and had weapons hidden inside the Ark.
‏قال Theodore Lewis
I was one of the children on the ark that morning, Tuesday, and I can attest that beyond animals the band was in defensive posture. My mother lived in Laventille, and I lived with my uncle in South but stayed with her up Joe Betsy Hill (near the alley) for the 1959 carnival. I was 12.

The mas was Highlights of Noah's Ark. We children were safe. At least for the ride down the hill. They put us on the ark.

My mother had her stall in town near Memorial Park. I was not in the band when the fight start, but it was not far from the Park, and there was great commotion. In fact the fight conveniently took place near the hospital, whose service was needed that day by men from both sides. But especially San Juan All stars men.

I have a colleague from San Juan who told me short years ago, we both being senior men now, former teachers, that the fight did not end on Charlotte Street that day. Someone from Laventille went to San Juan wearing a Despers Jersey on Ash Wednesday.

Not the smartest thing to have done.

The thing about that is that at Carnival time you have the safety of the band on carnival day. But in 1959 you should know that you cant go to San Juan wearing a Despers jersey on Ash Wednesday.

Unless you don't understand street culture. Or maybe you came in late. You have to let things cool off.

What I know is that I was ON the ark that carnival Tuesday morning, with other Laventille children, and felt safe.

San Juan people, well beyond the pan yard, were licking their wounds on ash Wednesday morning. And in 1959 the smart money for anybody from Laventille would have been to wear ordinary street clothes, and certainly not the band jersey.

Theodore Lewis

‏قال غير معرف…
Did you know that what was seen as the decorated bow of "The Ark" was actually cutlass handles with their blades hidden.
‏قال Theodore Lewis
I a aware that there was cutlass on that ark. My memory does not yield the sight of actual cutlasses. But there was great fuss that morning about the ark, and I have come this far from 1959 believing that it was loaded with weapons. I cant remember if I saw any, but I am certain that the conversation I heard that morning had to do with weaponry.

This was Despers, and the band was expecting trouble. Steelband clashes start long before the fight.

Theodore Lewis